Using 414's in the Model 14?

**oface1** · May 13th, 2015, 02:56 PM

I have a friend that is contemplating on getting a set of 14's. They do not come with the original woofers. I have a set 414's, and said he could borrow them to use and see if they would work.

Has this been attempted before, and what was the result? Is it worth it? WIll he/Ihave to make an adapter plate to fit the 414's in? I think I read somewhere the original 14's woofers were 13".

I just measured the 414's I have and they were 12'.

Thanks!

**Todd W. White** · May 13th, 2015, 07:17 PM

The tuning port would have to be changed, as would the crossover. Plus, the 414 won't handle the power the woofer in the Model 14 produces, and, depending on which era of 414, they might not even mount to the box.

Call Bill at Great Plains Audio and see if he has or can make some Model 14 woofers.

**VolvoHeretic** · May 13th, 2015, 07:29 PM

I don't know anything about the model 14, but my research for my son's model 15 indicates that it's woofer runs full range and only the horn has a 1500 Hz capacitor high pass. I think that they both use the same woofer.

**bowtie427ss** · May 14th, 2015, 06:36 AM

I think that they both use the same woofer.

Not so. The 15, 9, and Santana II share the same woofer. The 14 woofer handles more power, has more motor.

**oface1** · May 14th, 2015, 10:52 AM

Thanks guys,

It was as I suspected, my friend called Bill and my friend was told he does not have a replacement for that woofer.

I told my friend to either pass on those 14's, or try and get them for MR horn and the 902 driver and then he could use/buy my 414's for that project. But considering he isn't too experienced/thrilled in the notion of DIY, he's gonna pass.

I would grab them, but I am about to grab a set of 19's for $400, plus I have too many projects on my plate at the moment.

GM · May 14th, 2015, 11:09 AM

What's needed are accurate specs of an original as I bet there's a current, 'close enough', performing one available nowadays.

GM

**oface1** · May 14th, 2015, 11:33 AM

I was thinking the same GM. I have watched over the years how GPA has (thankfully) expanded their lineup on parts and new drivers.

The text I got from my friend was that Bill stated " there no subsitute".

Thanks for the input as always!

GM · May 14th, 2015, 02:56 PM

You're welcome! Yeah, with the myriad choices available these days in all sizes of drivers there's bound to be one that 'fills the bill' acoustically simply because Altec would have chosen an easy to manufacture driver that didn't stray too far from the norm WRT [T/S] specs.

GM

**oface1** · May 15th, 2015, 01:35 PM

The 14's in question do have a woofer, but my friend hasn't seen them yet to inspect them.

He just got a Dared 845 integrated amp, and wants " the speaker" for them. But this is the same guy who will go through 10 pairs of speakers in a year, trying to find something he likes. Case in point, I sold him my 604's , only for hium to sell them a month l;ater, but then buys another set, 6months down the road! I told him, you're gonna have to stop chasing that dragon man!

My 604's were my end of the road for me, until I had to come up with $$$ for a divorce. I am hoping these 19's I am getting tonight they can "get me back there"......

GM, as always, I appreciate your input and comments.

Y'all have a good weekend,I got to get a nap before I hit the road to go get those 19's! Expect a new post and a series of questions on my new aquisition! ( can y'all tell I am a little amped?)